Tuesday, November 11, 2008

1994's

Okay, here's the post I promised on 1994's. Again, please don't assume that this list means I agree or disagree with the practice of recruiting kids this age. My goal with this post is really to identify some players of this birthyear that are the most likely candidates to be recruited first. Keeping that in mind, I'm going to miss A LOT of fantastic rural players and incredible players not involved with traveling bantam/midget/junior teams. I'm just going to list the players alphabetically, because ranking 14-year-olds against eachother is an effort in futility. However, I am going to put an asterisk* by a few players who simply stand out amongst the competition... just because I can.

Riley Barber (F) - Compuware
*Grant Besse (F) - Breck HS
*Connor Carrick (D) - Chicago Fury
Mackenzie Cook (F) - Reading HS/Boston Little Bruins
Andrew Doane (F) - Nobles Prep
*Nick Ebert (D) - North Jersey Avalanche
Adam Gilmour (F) - Thayer Academy
Matt Halverson (D) - Wayzata HS
*Seth Jones (D) - Dallas Stars AAA
Dennis Kravchenko (F) - California Wave
Kristian Manthey (D) - Anoka HS
AJ Michaeson (F) - Apple Valley HS
Brian Morgan (F) - Boston Jr. Bruins-EmpireJHL
Josh Nenadal (F) - Cleveland Barons
Drew Newmeyer (D) -Phoenix Firebirds
Ryan Papa (F) -Chicago Young Americans
Alex Roos (F) - Team Illinois
Jack Rowe (F) - Chicago Mission
Kyle Ruggles (F) - Little Caesars
Zane Schartz (F) - Chicago Fury
*Ian Spencer (D) - North Jersey Avalanche
*Brady Vail (F) - Compuware
Alec Vanko (D) -Madison Capitols
*Frankie Vatrano (F) - Boston Jr. Bruins-EmpireJHL

There you have it... a random list of good, young, and soon to be over-hyped players that could potentially be the first of their birthyear to be recruited... unless of course Michigan decides to snipe some player out of Ontario first.

75 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have played against some of these kids and i know what seperates them from all of the others and that is there work ethic. They take that extra step every day working out shooting stick hanlding. I think recruiting them this young will ruin that work ethic. It will make them think okay i got recruited or am going to i dont have to work as hard. Those are just my thoughts

Anonymous said...

Related to the Chicago kids you mentioned, Jack Rowe and Ryan Papa should be well down the list. I would put Timmy Lappin, Tyler Pham, Sam Piazza, Thomas DiPauli, Chris Funkey, Jared Rutledge all way ahead of those two others. I have followed the Chicago 1994 birth year closely for years.

Anonymous said...

Half those teams are not even correct! One sign of a bad scout is having a player under the wrong team or old info.

CHRE said...

I'm no scout, I just gather the info. Please let me know which teams need to be updated... thanks.

Anonymous said...

We'll don't you think your info should be correct before posting it?

Anonymous said...

I am curious to where you get your info? Seth Jones has not played for colorado in two seasons, he plays with Dalas Stars AAA along with the Karty kid that is a beast.

CHRE said...

I didn't know it wasn't correct. The MWEHL info is from pointstreak. The eastern prep info I got from somebody else. The eastern juniors are from the league websites. The Minnesotans info is from the Nike/Bauer NIT tournament. So... which ones are incorrect?

Anonymous said...

the schartz kid from dallas bulldogs has not played for the alliance in two years,plus he has an ego bigger than texas, thats why he moved to chicago

Anonymous said...

I know the Schartz kid personally. He used to play for me in Texas. He's a nice kid that works very hard. Great attitude. Very unselfish. Passes up lots of shots to make the pass. He went to Chicago to play in the same organization as his brother who plays for the Fury 18UAAA - he wanted to be with him before his brother leaves to play juniors. The kids on my team loved him. He was one of my captains. He can play for me any time.

Anonymous said...

why do you even bother to rate kids that are ostensibly 8th & 9th graders; yes, some of them might receive D1 offers shortly, but then when a kid doesn't stay on the top of the heap, you're the first to say they "peaked early" or they were "overrated" if they don't turn out to be A or B rated players by the nhl. C'mon, give these kids a break; there's so much room for growth in high school age years that besides being ridiculous, it's unfair to turn these kids into hockey prodigies. It's just setting them up for a steep downside if they don't pan out at some higher level.

CHRE said...

Fair criticism, except for the part where I supposedly claimed a prospect "peaked early" or was "overrated". What I do is no different than what the scouting sevices linked to the left do.

Anonymous said...

I noticed you make no mention of player from Compuware or Honeybaked hockey teams out of Michigan. I know there are teams through out the U.S. that have quality players but it seems these two teams fair well and represent the U.S. where ever they play. In fact both teams sit atop there league standings and are rated in the top three by some organizations. I watch and respect your opinions on the blog and was just wondering if you have not had the opportunity to see the teams play, or is the talent not there to make your list.

CHRE said...

Compuware and Honeybaked probably should have players on the list, but there's so many it's kind of difficult to separate any out. How big is Henke really? Riley Barber seems to have a scorer's touch.

Anonymous said...

Henke is 5'9" 175.
Barber is talented but on a Compuware team not loaded with alot of offensive talent this year.
See's alot of ice time on the power play.
That will be the big difference this year, Honeybaked rolls three solid lines 4 to 5 players will be tops in scoring this year.

Anonymous said...

Couple of good D man in the east: Not sure where you would get good stats or info, maybe the chowder cup tourny, Some top scorers and players: Kyle Webb, Kevin Mckearnan, Matty Gryzlek,Conner Costello Charlie Donners, Connor Clement.....

Anonymous said...

You missed Brady Vail! A 94 playing on the number 1 ranked Miget Minor team in the US Compuware. He is also one of there best players. The kids playing up have to be ranked higher than the ones playing at there own level...especialy if they can dominate!!
Thanks for the info!!
BTW: My son is on a chicago mm team and has played agianst Brady for yrs....

Anonymous said...

you missed a few very good players from chicago who i know can easily top that list like sam piazza (mission) james bonaguro (fury) vinnie hinostroza (mission) tyler pham (ti)

Anonymous said...

schartz could not even make it to national select camp, how can he be one of the better players in the country when he couldnt make it out of salt lake?

Anonymous said...

Ever heard of Pat Kane?

kyle komar babyy said...

brian morgan pwns

Anonymous said...

after watching the nike/bauer in chicago it confirms that tanner karty of dallas stars is a top notch major jr prospect,his offensive skills and physical game are top notch along with a never quit mental toughness. a true leader at every level he has played!

Anonymous said...

Is he really, "top notch"?

Anonymous said...

kravchenko is on LA Selects fyi

another good one to watch out for is henrik samuelsson playing for 16u PF Changs AAA. 94 playing up and Ulf's kid

Anonymous said...

Ha wow a couple of names shouldnt be on there at all and your missing a bunch. Try anders franke from elk river. he is and always has been an outstanding tender. also zach stephon should be on this. he is also an amazing hockey player who has a great work ethic. But kristain manthey??? seriously???? psh

Anonymous said...

great list but there are a few Florida kids that can play. Sure they are not from high profile mid-west teams but that should not be held against them. Sebastian Romeo can flat out play. Austin Cangelosi who will be a true freshman next year at a prominent NE prep school is playing u16aaa this year is a player that should be on this list

Anonymous said...

Romeo is the only florida kid that can play. The other kid moved to Canada. The kid going to prep school is an unknown and therefore should not be on the list. If he was that good then by this point someone would have heard of him and there are plenty of names that were left off of that list.

Goalie expert said...

What about goalies two kids who stood out this summer at the u14 select camp in Rorchester were Jared Rutledge and Mark Hochman. They played together on the same team but I had never heard of hochman before this he is a massachusetts kid who has flown under the radar always playing on the okay to bad team. This summer he became a game changer as well did rutledge. They posses the same strengths both handle the puck well and are very quick the only difference lies in there size. Rutledge who stands around 5''10' And Hochman around 5'4'. If Hochman grows he will be a top goalie prospect in the near future if he goes to the right places rumor is he may attend prep school or play juniors in mass.

Anonymous said...

The "other Florida kid" who is going to Prep school next year is well know outside of Florida. He did not go to any Festivals last year on Florida and played last spring and summer in Canada.Any lists that truly count is where you will find that kid's name

Anonymous said...

Kid going to prep from Florida does not have the money to go out of state much during spring and summer. His teams went to Nationals previous two years. Unselfish player, coachable and on the radar in NE. Plays 3 sports and never attended a Festival camp in Florida. The lists that truly count will have his name on them

Anonymous said...

Goalie expert you must be the father of the Hochman goalie because he is not a top flight goaltender. A lesson that should be learned. Stats mean nothing when it comes to talent and goalies. So just because the kid put up good numbers at the Camp does not mean he is good because the best goalies at the camp did not put up good numbers at all. Partly because some teams were better than others and partly because at least two of them were hurt. However you are right about one thing. Rutledge is a good goalie.

Anonymous said...

Hochamn is not good. His team was good. You must be his father. Goalie stats mean nothing when judging goalie talent. The only correct statement in your post was that Rutledge is good.

Anonymous said...

I disagree Hochman is a good goaltender look at the kids who were there He stopped them obviously he was good and his team was what .500 seems like a great team. Without either Rutledge or Hochman the team would not have been that good.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the fact that he had good stats. But go back to the page and look at the stats more closely. Over 5 or 6 games he had a total of only 50 shots. That is about 8 shots per game. As a coach I would expect my goalie to stop those 8 shots. Then some of the top goalies there saw 80 or 90 shots in total which is a very big difference.

Anonymous said...

Hochman had almost the fewest amount of shots at the camp, I believe it was about 50 in 5 or 6 games which translates to about 8 shots per game. As a coach I would hope my goalie could make 8 saves. On the other hand some of the top goalies saw 70,80,90 shots during the week.

Anonymous said...

Hochman had almost the fewest number of shots at the camp. He has about 50 shots in 5 or 5 games which is about 8 shots per game. I would hope he could make 8 saves. Some of the top goalies saw 70,80,90 shots during those games.

Anonymous said...

I agree, at a camp like the USA Select Festival camps you cannot judge primarily on stats alone. When you throw a group of players together who do not know each other anything can happen. The team can gel fast and run with the chemistry or they can bomb horribly. I know at least one team there couldn't gel to save their lives to the point they were fighting each other on and off the ice. That makes a HUGE difference from the goalies out.

Anonymous said...

That is true that he had a small amount of shots but he did do his job so in my opinion there isn't enough info for him to be judged

Kyle Leddy said...

i have played against nick ebert, ian spencer and the 2 jr. bruin players. all of these kids are very strong players but from my point of view your missing some. Danny casey plays for the Nj devils youth u16 AAA national team. Ian spencer plays u16 AAA american which is a level below the national leauge. Also ian is practically full grown as danny has room to grow. another player missing from your list is Elliot vorel. Although he chose to not play up, he is on one of the best teams in the nation for the Nj colonials bantam AAA. He will skate circles around the 2 bruin players. i have played tripple A with elliot and i can tell you not only is he excellent but he makes every one else look good. Its ot just individuality on the ice, its team work as well.

Kyle Leddy said...

i have played against nick ebert, ian spencer and the 2 jr. bruin players. all of these kids are very strong players but from my point of view your missing some. Danny casey plays for the Nj devils youth u16 AAA national team. Ian spencer plays u16 AAA american which is a level below the national leauge. Also ian is practically full grown as danny has room to grow. another player missing from your list is Elliot vorel. Although he chose to not play up, he is on one of the best teams in the nation for the Nj colonials bantam AAA. He will skate circles around the 2 bruin players. i have played tripple A with elliot and i can tell you not only is he excellent but he makes every one else look good. Its ot just individuality on the ice, its team work as well.

Kyle Leddy said...

i have played against nick ebert, ian spencer and the 2 jr. bruin players. all of these kids are very strong players but from my point of view your missing some. Danny casey plays for the Nj devils youth u16 AAA national team. Ian spencer plays u16 AAA american which is a level below the national leauge. Also ian is practically full grown as danny has room to grow. another player missing from your list is Elliot vorel. Although he chose to not play up, he is on one of the best teams in the nation for the Nj colonials bantam AAA. He will skate circles around the 2 bruin players. i have played tripple A with elliot and i can tell you not only is he excellent but he makes every one else look good. Its ot just individuality on the ice, its team work as well.

Kyle Leddy said...

correction with ian spencer. He plays on the Avalanche bantam AAA team. for stats on him nick ebert danny Casey and elliot vorel go to www.atlantichpckey.org

Anonymous said...

Ever heard of Nick Trombley out of Traverse City. Defenseman on a Bantam A travel team. Just turned 14, 6 foot, 145 lbs dressed and can skate with the best of them. Unselfish and a real position player. A kid to watch over the next couple of years.

Anonymous said...

to the feb 4 post that Romeo is only Florida kid that can play. USHL 94 LIST is out and Cangelosi Bradley and Drapluck on list. Didnt see Romeo's name? Does this list count or will you come up with another outlandish statement that Romeo is only player in Florida that is any good?

Anonymous said...

To Nov. 11th, 10:34. Checked out point streak at year's end funny where the 2 boys you refer to as should be "well down" the list ended up tops on their team and both are in the top 10 of the MWEHL ..... Let's try to keep things all positive when talking about players on these web sites.

Anonymous said...

Best 1994 Defense man, I saw this kid Judd Loewenstein playing for Team Illinois Bantam Major. He is solid , smooth and handles himself well with the puck. He can thread the needle on a pass and sees the ice real well. One of the smartest players at that Birth year. Strong, physical. He shoots lefty and gets tons of ice time. Reminds me a a young Duncan Keith from the WHL/Chicago Blackhawks. He will be a top prsopect someday. No doubt!

Anonymous said...

Ian Spencer is an ok player but "peaked early" skill wise he is pretty talented but overrated. But his growth is done. Vorel is not that good. He was very good at the Bantam Minor level but is not in the pack anymore. Nick Ebert is a very talented player. He has room for developement of skills and growth. He is a "prospect".

Anonymous said...

We just got to play with some of the best Detroit kids as part of the Nike Bauer Selects Midwest team. Being from Chicago, we generally play against them. Henke, Kolz and Dries are all great forwards. Henke is a flat-out 94 scoring machine who can skate and snipe. Kolz may be the best 94 playmaker on the ice with great vision and Dries is a true finisher who can consistently find the back of the net. We'll take all 3 of these forwards in Chicago any day
Trouba and Lowney can match any D-men out there. They play the body, know when to pinch and can hold the blue line as good as any.

Anonymous said...

If you look at the Pointstreak stats for teh 94 MWEHL, you will see that 4 of the top 7 scoring leaders are from Detroit Honeybaked and 3 of the 4 forwards play on the same line.
Henke, Kolcz, Dries, Shilkey.

Anonymous said...

There is a '94 team coming from the Pittsburgh Predators for the 09-10 season that is AA locally and AAA in tournaments. It has a couple of USHL '94 futures draft players on it (former AAA Hornets) and several other talented players from the Jr. Penguins and the Predators bantam ranks. Should be competitive against any '94 squad out there.

Anonymous said...

Its a shame the money it cost for AAA in chicago.. there are a FEW great players that just cant pay the fees for their kid to be seen. There are a couple from the Sabers and a few at the Chargers that belong on that list.

Anonymous said...

sorry pal 2 up from me...AA doesnt cut it and if they used to play that means they didnt make it and USHL Draft List is nothing.. the coach picks who goes on it

Anonymous said...

brady vail and nick ebert are both playing on the waterloo blackhawks team this season. they both had lots of playing time during pre-season. ebert is in all the time in defense now. vail not so much because they have more experienced forwards.

Anonymous said...

I have played with a lot of these players my whole life. There are 2very good players that are not on this list that should be. Mitch Beyer, Cam yarwood. Also you guys are wrong about spencer he is a very good prospect. I disagree with a few names on this list to.

Anonymous said...

ryan papa is one of the most talented kids i have ever played against. He is an all around player with the heart to match. Any team would be lucky to have him on their squad!

Anonymous said...

About a year ago you said Austin Cangelosi was an unknown. He has 54 pts as freshman at NMH and led his team to a NE prep championship that he will be playing in tomorrow. He also has an offer from BC. Great scouting site. haha

Anonymous said...

congrats to the cangelosi kid. Humble and unselfish. Best thing he could have done is go up North and play prep hockey. Nice to see a kid from Florida commit to a awesome school like Boston College.

Anonymous said...

Cangelosi is sick, I go to Exeter here in NH and I know Austin through my buddy down at NMH. He's very unselfish and humble. Him and Frankie Votrano, who I've met once from Brian Morgan down at one of their Empire league games are probably the best two 94s I've played against and seen. Frankie already committed to BC and Austin might just join him with him being recruited by them.

Anonymous said...

Brady Vail is now on Waterloo USHL team.

Anonymous said...

Another 94 from Florida is Oujevolk. 6'1 180 and skates smoothly. USHL draft list too.

Anonymous said...

Oujevolk from Florida can really play. On the USHL draft list and 6'1 185, big man who can skate smooth.

Anonymous said...

Why not looking at some Colorado Teams, some of the kids out here have played some of these kids and have done pretty well
Anthony Olguin
Colin Staub
How about the entire Pikes Peak Miners U16 team who happened to win the NAPHL Tournament
and just because your looking at the AAA teams doesn't mean your seeing the best, AAA is expensive and not everyone can handle the price, for instance
Ryder Conroy of the Fountain Valley School of Colorado High School Hockey Team
Derrek Shoup of the Fountain Valley School of Colorado High School Hockey Team
There is a lot of great talent all over the state of Colorado at AAA and High School who have played with and against people like Tyler Pham, Chris Funkey, and all of the above

Anonymous said...

Yes id have to put rutledge and Funkey as top two goalies ive ever seen. i play for team wisconsin and tht Funkey kid shut us down in the shootout...and rutledge is just phenomenal

Anonymous said...

Ryan Ivey is another strong 94 from FL - now lives in NJ (I think). 6'2" defenseman that plays physical. Heard he will be drafted to OHL this year. I played against him for years when he lived in Florida.

Anonymous said...

Talking about florida, Wade Simon is another great player from florida who played in the SEJHL Jr.C Allstar game, he is small but quick with the puck

Anonymous said...

andy michaelidis?

Anonymous said...

al vanko is the best 94 d man in the country

Anonymous said...

al vanko is the best 94 d man in the country and its not even close he will be playing in the chell in about 5 or 6 years

Anonymous said...

i have known austin cangeslosi since i was 8 always been a humble kid has some of the best speed i have seen. he can reach his top spped in no time. hes a freshmen and has already commited to boston college. he has told me that he might move after his sphomore year and live and train with the usa national devolpment team in michigan. his brother j.c is also a very good player. he doesnt have the skills that austin has but a very smart player. hes looking to go to a top divison 2 college.

Anonymous said...

One who's not on the list Cody Payne he's played for Florida Panthers and now play's for Mississauga Reps also David Hallisey who plays for Mid-Fairfield Blues and Westminster School  

Anonymous said...

Romeo will never make it. He is not mentally tough enough. Just watched him play and can not take a hit. When he does get checked he loses it. He took two legal check this weekend and lost it both times. The second check he lost it so much that he got a game. If he cannot hold his temper in the mjhl how is he going to do in a high league? He has no class, sorry loser as far as playing the game of hockey. Runs his mouth too much.

Anonymous said...

Who is Romeo? A 94? From where, never heard of him........

Anonymous said...

Sebastian Romeo, based on my goggle search, apparently a 94 from the FLA area. I cant say I've heard of him before either, but then again, I have not seen every 94 play, but probably most of them.

Anonymous said...

Nik Manory? Tucker May? These two are at the top of their game right now. Its a shame that these two arent on the list. upcoming superstars.

Anonymous said...

Boo Nieves is without a doubt the best 94 fwd in the country

Anonymous said...

Boo will go in the 1st round next August...........